Monday, February 9, 2009

Mon. 2/9/09 My Lai





Research the My Lai massacre: (go to links)

1. What was it?

2. Who were the main "characters" involved in it?

pbs.org/wgbh/amex/vietnam/trenches/my_lai.html

In "The Lake of the Woods," O'Brien does not employ chronological narrative;
Why? How does the structure support the themes of the text?

Post your answers for credit here.


Workshop:

2nd period


Assignment for Wednesday: Read to page 146 Ch. 17

On its surface, In the Lake of the Woods suggests the classic locked-room mystery turned on its head. Sometime between the night and late morning of September 19, 1986, a woman vanishes near Lake of the Woods in northern Minnesota, "where the water was everything, vast and very cold, and where there were secret channels and portages and bays and tangled forests and islands without names." While the traditional locked-room mystery presents investigators - and readers - with the seemingly impossible, the disappearance of Kathy Wade poses too many possibilities, a wilderness of hypotheses. There are too many places she could have gone, too many things that could have happened to her.

As Tim O'Brien gradually reveals in this haunting, morally vertiginous novel, there were too many reasons for Kathy to vanish. All of them are connected to her husband, John, an attractive if morally confused 40-year-old politician whose career has lately ended in a defeat so humiliating that it has driven the Wades to an isolated cabin in the Minnesota woods.

A long-buried secret has resurfaced to bury John alive; perhaps it has buried Kathy along with him. John's disgrace originated in "a place with secret trapdoors and tunnels and underground chambers populated by various spooks and goblins, a place where magic was everyone's hobby...a place where the air itself was both reality and illusion, where anything might instantly become anything else."

Its geographic epicenter is the village of Thuan Yen in Vietnam. It was there, eighteen years before, that John Wade was transformed from a boy with a gift for performing magic tricks (his platoon-mates knew him as "Sorcerer") into an entranced killer.

What happened at Thuan Yen was not fiction. The events that took place there were widely reported and documented in official U.S. Army hearings and are known today as the My Lai massacre. At the heart ofIn the Lake of the Woods is its brutal re-creation of this wound in John Wade's history and his country's. Because Wade was one of many killers, Tim O'Brien intersperses his narrative with the testimony of real figures like Lieutenant Rusty Calley and U.S. Army Investigator William V. Wilson--not to mention Presidents Richard Nixon and Woodrow Wilson. Just as John's and Kathy's associates--his mother and campaign manager, her sister and co-worker--try to decipher the events at Lake of the Woods, those historical witnesses posit partial explanations for America's mysteriously aligned obsessions with politics and violence.

Clausewitz observed that war is the continuation of politics by other means. Tim O'Brien suggests that politics, at least in its American variety, is a continuation of needs more basic and more terrible even than the need for power. The craving for love, he reminds us, can drive the human soul toward acts of desperation, deceit, and even violence.

For O'Brien, as for the unnamed investigator who is his narrator, all explanations are hypotheses rather than proofs. Beyond the mystery of Kathy's disappearance and John's role in it, and even beyond the mystery of My Lai, are other riddles: What predisposed John to become a murderer? What sort of magic enabled him to make his past vanish for twenty years, and what disappeared along with it? How could he love Kathy with such self-annihilating ferocity while keeping an essential part of himself hidden from her? Was Kathy a victim of John's deceptions or a participant in them? Is John an autonomous moral agent or another victim-of a bad childhood or a bad war or the murderous pastel sunlight of Vietnam? With In the Lake of the Woods, O'Brien has reinvented the novel as a magician's trick box equipped with an infinite number of false bottoms. Kathy's disappearance remains a "magnificent giving over to pure and absolute Mystery." John believes that "to know is to be disappointed. To understand is to be betrayed." This brave and troubling novel neither betrays nor disappoints, but brings the reader into a direct confrontation with the insoluble enigmas of history, character, and evil.




DISCUSSION QUESTIONS



1. Almost from this novel's first page we know that Kathy Wade will vanish, and it is not long before we discover that her disappearance will remain unsolved. What, then, gives In the Lake of the Woodsits undeniable suspense? What does it offer in place of the revelations of traditional mysteries?

2. Instead of a linear narrative, in which action unfolds chronologically, Tim O'Brien has constructed a narrative that simultaneously moves forward and backward in time: forward from John and Kathy's arrival at the cabin; backward into John's childhood, and beyond that to Little Big Horn and the War of Independence. It also moves laterally, into the "virtual" time that is represented by different hypotheses about Kathy's fate. What does the author accomplish with this narrative scheme? In what ways are his different narrative strands connected?

3. What does O'Brien accomplish in the sections titled "Evidence"? What information do these passages impart that is absent from the straightforward narrative? How do they alter or deepen our understanding of John as a magician, a politician, a husband, and a soldier who committed atrocities in wartime? What connections do they forge between his private tragedy and the pathologies of our public life and history? Does the testimony of (or about) such "real" people as Richard Nixon, William Calley, or George Custer lend greater verisimilitude to John's story or remind us that it--and John himself--are artifices?

4. Who is the narrator who addresses us in the "Evidence" sections? Are we meant to see him as a surrogate for the author, who also served in Vietnam and revisited Thuan Yen many years after the massacre? (See Tim O'Brien, "The Vietnam in Me," in The New York Times Magazine, October 3, 1994, pp. 48-57.) In what ways does O'Brien's use of this narrator further explode the conventions of the traditional novel?

5. One of the few things that we know for certain about John is that he loves Kathy. But what does John mean by love? How do John's feelings for his wife resemble his hopeless yearning for his father, who had a similar habit of vanishing? In what circumstances does John say "I love you"? What vision of love is suggested by his metaphor of two snakes devouring each other? Why might Kathy have fallen in love with John?

6. Although it is easy to see Kathy as the victim of John's deceptions, the author at times suggests that she may be more conscious (and therefore more complex) than she first appears. We learn, for example, that Kathy has always known about John's spying and even referred to him as "Inspector Clouseau," an ironic counterpoint to John's vision of himself as "Sorcerer." At a critical moment she rebuffs her husband's attempt at a confession. And in the final section of "Evidence," we get hints that Kathy may have planned her own disappearance. Are we meant to see Kathy as John's victim or as his accomplice, like a beautiful assistant vanishing inside a magician's cabinet?

7. Why might John have entered politics? Is he merely a cynical operator with no interest in anything but winning? Or, as Tony Carbo suggests, might John be trying to atone for his actions in Vietnam? Why might the author have chosen to leave John's political convictions a blank?

8. John's response to the horrors of Thuan Yen is to deny them: "This could not have happened. Therefore it did not." Where else in the novel does he perform this trick? How does John's way of coping with the massacre compare to the psychic strategies adopted by William Calley or Paul Meadlo? Do any of O'Brien's characters seems capable of acknowledging terrible truths directly? How does In the Lake of the Woods treat the matter of individual responsibility for evil?

9. Each of this novel's hypotheses about events at the cabin begins with speculation but gradually comes to resemble certainty. The narrator suggests that John and Kathy Wade are ultimately unknowable, as well; that any attempt to "penetrate...those leaden walls that encase the human spirit" can never be anything but provisional. Seen in this light, In the Lake of the Woods comes to resemble a magician's trick, in which every assertion turns out to be only another speculation. Given the information we receive, does any hypothesis about what happened at Lake of the Woods seem more plausible than the others? With what certainties, if any, does this novel leave us?

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Critical Praise

" A risky, ambitious, perceptive, engaging, and troubling novel...a major attempt to come to grips with the causes and consequences of the late 20th century's unquenchable appetite for violence, both domestic and foreign. "
—Chicago Tribune


"A relentless work full of white heat and dark possibility. "
—The Boston Globe


"At bottom, this is a tale about the moral effects of suppressing a true story, about the abuse of history, about what happens to you when you pretend there is no history. "
—The New York Times Book Review


"A memorable mystery story charged with haunting ambiguity...If any American novelist is creating more beautifully written, emotionally harrowing tales than Tim O'Brien, I don't know who it could be. "
—Entertainment Weekly


"An unrelenting exploration of the darkest recesses of the human heart and psyche. O'Brien's approach is bold, ambitious, and intriguing. "
—Houston Chronicle


"This remarkable book is about the slipperiness of truth, the weight of forgetting, and the way two people disappear into themselves, and, ultimately, into the Lake of the Woods. "
—The New Yorker


"O'Brien's clean, incantatory prose always hovers on the edge of dream.... No one writes better about the fear and homesickness of a boy adrift amid what he cannot understand, be it combat or love. "
—Time

14 comments:

zoe :) said...
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hayley said...

1. The My Lai massacre was an event during the Vietnam War where the Charlie Company (American soldiers) brutally killed three hundred people in the village of My Lai, in the southern Vietnamese district. The Americans showed no mercy--they were sick of being picked off and injured by the Vietnamese, so they took out their anger on innocent civilians. Old people, men, women, and children were shot and killed, stabbed with bayonnets, and put in ditches to be mowed over by machine gun fire. At least one of the girls was raped by a soldier and then murdered. It was terrible.
2. The main characters were the twenty-six men of the 11th Brigade in the Charlie Company and their lt. William Calley. Some of the political men involved during this time were Dean Acheson, Clark Clifford, Mike Mansfield, Pete Peterson, etc. The various presidents in charge during the war were also included in the main characters. (Lyndon B. Johnson, John F. Kennedy, Richard M. Nixon.)

In "The Lake of the Woods" O'Brien doesn't use chronological narrative because if he did, the story would make too much sense--he wanted to keep the reader in the dark, on edge, trying to string together the different pieces of the story together on their own. With bits of information included at various points, the reader takes the information and tries to make sense of it. But without the whole story, they can't. Which is why chronological narrative is best left out in mysteries.

zoe :) said...
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Elizabeth Gombert said...

My Lai:
1. The My Lai Massacre was an incident in the Vietnam war where poor leadership, an ambiguous enemy, and frustrated and mentally strained soldiers resulted in a massacre of over 300 unarmed civilians. The soldiers let loose a voilent tyrade against the village. The disturbing details of this event came under the public eye through the press almost two years later in November 1969. The public was shocked and the My Lai Massacre brough into question the qualifications and preparedness for war of the Vietnam soldiers.

2. The main characters included Lt. William Calley, who was the senior officer who gave the Charlie Company the order to invade the village and kill everyone in it. He became a symbol for the underqualified soldiers and generals in the Vietnam War. He was tried for murder and sentenced to a lifetime in prison, but was released early in 1974 after a series of appeals.

zoe :) said...

1. It first started as a "search and destroy" mission it got out of hand when the Charlie Company, 11th Brigade, Americal Division's lieutenant William Calley sent the soliders into the village of My Lai with open fire on the unarmed civilians, killing over 300 of them.
2. Lt. William Calley, who was charged for murder in September '69. Ron Ridenhour is a minor character; he's a Vietnam veteran who exposed the massascre to journalist Seymour Hersh in November '69. and the 26 soldiers who were involved.

In "The Lake of the Woods", O'Brien doesn't use chronological narrative because that's not how investigations work and his book is an investigation by an unnamed narrator. When you investigate a crime, you don't find out all the information by going in chronological order, you find out bits and pieces of the crime and you put it together. Memory becomes important in this case because by going back and forth through virtual time and John and Kathy's past, O'Brien gives evidence and red herrings in order for the reader to form their own hypothesis.

Anonymous said...

William Keller

1. The My Lai massacre was an event during the vietnam war in which members of the Charlie Company, 11th Brigade, American Division were ordered to "search and destroy" the South Vietnamese village of My Lai, as it was believed that it was hiding Vietcong rebels. Over 300 innocent and unarmed civilians were killed, several while praying and at least one reported rape.

2. The main people involved with the My Lai Massacre were members of the Charlie Company, 11th Brigade, American Divion; Lt. William Calley, the one who ordered the search and destroy mission; Cpt. Ernest Medina, the one Calley claimed to have oredered him to do the attack; Seymour Hersh, a reporter who investigated the attack; Ron Ridenhour, a helicopter gunner who wrote letters detailing the events; Hugh Thompson, a helicopter pilot who first reported the murder of civilians; Col. Oran K. Henderson, a commander of the 11th Infantry Brigade who claimed 20-30 of the civilians had been killed inadvertantly.

3. O'Brien chose to use a non-linear storyline in order to add to the mystery of In the Lake of the Woods and to keep the readers reading. By scattering the pieces of the story the reader is coerced into reading more than they originally attended, making it harder to put down. When written linearly, it is easy to find a stoping point in the story, but when the time period leaps, the reader expects to learn what happens next, yet are instead given more information for them to ponder, then learn what happens, forcing them to read more.

Elizabeth Gombert said...

Chronological Narrative:

Tim O'Brien does not use chronological order in the novel because, as it is a mystery, he is carefully revealing important details of evidence and the past of the characters in a specific order so as to maintain the suspense and manipulate the suspisions of the reader. The structure allows the reader to fill in some of the gaps left with imagination and thus follows the motif of pretending that is in the book. The non-chronological narrative gives an aura of mystery and uncertainty that lingers about the characters because the reader has to fill in the gaps left by O'Brien.

pfmh said...

1). The My Lai Massacre took place on March 16th, 1968, in the Vietnamese village of My Lai. A group of American troops under Lt. William Calley was lead to mercilessly kill and rape the innocent villagers of the town, without any given reason -- there was no evidence of the Vietcong being in the village.
2). The major "characters" involved in the massacre were Lt. William Calley and his men, as well as his superior, Captain Ernest Medina, who was (wrongfully) accused of ordering the Lt. to take the men into the village.
3). In the Lake in the Woods is essentially a mystery, so the chronological ordering of facts and memories does not necessarily immediately make sense. Therefore, the actual chronological set of events in the story is not necesarily in order. The story is about a man and a woman's relationship with one another. Gradually, the reader finds out more and more facts about the characters involved -- John's insanity, for example, or Kate's fierce independance. The "spotted" order of the text is meant to provide a more detailed background of the characters for the readers.

sheedy700 said...

The My Lai massacre is when American soldiers went in to a town in Vietnam called My Lai and killed alot of people. Not soldiers, but regular people like you and me. These soldiers werent given orders to kil these people and they were lead by Lt. William Calley. Calley and his soldiers killed over 300 unarmed civilans. This was a shameful event and ruine America's reputation. This is not the American way and masacring people are breaking rules in warfare. Our country already had a bad reputation by sticking our noses in someone business and this happen. Not cool! Also this event question the decesion on making a draft. People critize saying America should put people in command that were from "Harvard"(well educated and good leadership skills.)
This event goes with the text that we are reading by John Wade getting accused for killing his wife destroy his career and life and for the massacre it destroyed William Calley's career. John Wade was also an American soldier and for him killing his wife isn't the American way.

nisha said...

What is the My Lai Massacre? The My Lai massacre was the massacre of atleast 500 unarmed civilians including women, children, and the elderly by American Soldiers. The main goal was to "search and destroy" said by one of the soldiers' superior officers. One of the main characters in the massacre was 24 year old Lt. William Calley who had criminal charges filed on him for unecessary killings. George Latimer was his attorney.He believed that Calley was innocent.

Anonymous said...

1. What was it?
March 16, 1968, The My Lai massacre that happened during the Vietnam war was said to be the slaughter of about 300-500 people that were unarmed. The massacre included women, children as well as elderly and twenty-six troops were led into My Lai by Lt. William Calley.


2. Who were the main "characters" involved in it?
Lt. William Calley who was in charge of the first platoon was said to be a man that didn't rub people the right way. One GI described him as “A glory-hungry person...the kind of person who would have sacrificed all of us for his own personal advancement.” A captain named Medina from time to time would address him as "Lieutenant Shithead" and many of the soldiers and superiors did not respect him or like him.

3. Non-chronological narrative works for "The Lake of the Woods" because like Hayley said "he wanted to keep the reader in the dark, on edge," O'Brien uses a technique that keeps the reader on his/her toes. He'll lead the reader into a corner and have you believe that you've finally figured out the case then grab you by the shoulders and whip you around into another chapter while sprinkling new possibilities and thrusting useful evidence into your chest. You feel as if you come right back into the beginning of the story all over again but this time blindfolded with information that eats through the back of your brain. Yeah, it's terrible. I know.

ZEJ said...

In my original comment, I talked about how the My Lai massacre occurred during the Vietnam War, and involved the brutal murder of over 300 unarmed villagers by the members of Charlie Company. Many of the characters in In the Lake of the Woods are not completely fictitious, and were based on the actual members of C Company--for example, Lt. William Calley. I then went on to say that the use of nonchronological structure not only forces the reader to continue with the book, but also to maintain the secrecy in the characters' relationships, and bring it to the relationship between the reader and the narrator.

nisha said...

O'Brein doesn't employ chronological narrative because the story is a mystery to what has happened to Kathy. I think O'brien gives us bits and pieces of John life so we can development his characteristics and to see if by reading about his past life does it explain what might have happened to Kathy and it could explain why her turned out they way he did. Putting everything in order would make the book seem like a biography of John wades life and i don't think that is how the author wanted to get the story across.

Hanna Amireh said...

The My Lai massacre was when the William Calley and the United States armed forces took the life of many innocents. As in many massacres many women, men and children are destroyed. As always the United States involved themselves in affairs that were none of their concerns. The nutrality of the United States has been burned and the ashes have blown away in the wind, never to be found again.

One of the main characters in the My Lai massacre was Liutenant William Calley. It's said that Calley was held accountable for murder. Charged for murder. My question is, How can the government charge him for murder when they sent him their to kill. If anything the government is the murderer. They sent him to kill and destroy. They may be trying to put on this character that does what is right but killing innocents and destroying what was fine before their invasion is not justified. The United States government is to be held responsible for those deaths, not William Calley. He was just following orders.

In "The Lake of the Woods," O'Brien doesn't employ chronological order because if it were to go in sequence things would be too obvious. It's like Law and Order, CSI and all those other mystery shows. "In The Lake of the Woods" is like a mystery and like all mysteries nothing is given in a sequential order. It is up to the reader to put one and two together and solve the mystery. O'Brien most likely didn't want to put things in order because it would have been too obvious. Besides the reader would be a more active reader, and would pay attention to more detail in order to solve this mystery.